On Evil
Written by Mark Van Steenwyk : May 11, 2007
Thanks John Smulo for stirring up some good thoughts about the nature of evil! In his blog, John asks the following:
In my apologetics class today we started looking at the popular question, “How can a good God allow evil and suffering?”
This is a difficult enough question to deal with by itself. But to start off with we asked another question that is foundational to the first: “What is evil?”
We explored whether evil is tangible or intangible; whether it is personal or impersonal.
The short answer, at least in my opinion, is that evil doesn’t exist in and of itself, but rather is is the absence of good.
What are your thoughts on the following?
- Is evil tangible or intangible?
- Is evil personal or impersonal?
- What is evil?
Personally, I don’t buy the notion that evil is the absence of good. That seems built upon platonic metaphysics, not upon reality or a Hebraic understanding of evil. Evil isn’t the absence of good, but the destruction or corruption of good. I am evil when I am trying to destroy or thwart that which is good.
Evil can be either personal or impersonal. When talking about a child dying of cancer or natural disasters (which I would call the destruction of the good), it could be called impersonal. When it is someone killing another it is definitely personal, since the evil exists as the personal desire to control and do violence to another. I don’t think there is a capital “E” evil that is personal. Although I do believe that evil is widespread, chaotic, and systemic. And I do believe that there are principalities and powers, and even a satan that bring some sense of personhood to systemic evil.
I have a good friend who likes to say that evil grows out of our desire to secure good out of our own lack. I agree. Adam and Eve were created good, but with lack. In their desire to secure greater good, and completeness, they inadequately reached out and corrupted that which is good.
An analogy: evil is like a small child hugging an animal to death. If the child grows in this behavior, he may become twisted and corrupted himself. In his attempts to find completeness, he may even corrupt himself…and become evil.
I find the book “Speaker for the Dead” by Orson Scott Card helpful in fleshing this out. The book, which is a great work of sci fi and a sequel to “Ender’s Game” works off of the assumption that everyone–no matter how evil–has some good reason for what they do. The pedafile does evil in their own internal desire to secure the good. A murder is trying to secure their good in their act of evil. Lucifer may have become twisted into Satan by his own desire for affirmation.
In this way of seeing things, God didn’t create evil. His creation was, nevertheless, incomplete and imperfect. He granted creatures the desire to do good. And when, in inadequacy and desire, creatures reached beyond themselves into the unknown to secure the good, they corrupt the good–and themselves. In this way they condition themselves to become capable of evil. I think this understanding of evil even works for natural evil (or calamity), because we are told that the earth “growns” for its fulfillment.
This approach also fits my experience. I think that evil is indeed tangible. It grows out of intangibles like “lack” and “desire.” But evil gains tangibility because it is essentially the fruits of our co-creation as humans.
Another literary example: in the Silmarillion the Illuvatar allowed his highest created beings (the Valar) to engage in co-creation. Creation came about through the singing of a creation song. But that creation was corrupted when Melkor sang his own song, thus changing the melody. In my analogy, Melkor’s singing was borne out of the good desire of creativity matched with Melkor’s inadequacy and imperfection. The fruit of it was corruption, ie: evil.
So, evil is tangible. But it is the fruit of our co-creation with God.
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good thoughts. I often say that evil is often born out of hopelessness. And as “co creators” we have the ability to bring hope, even to create hope where there is none. This is, in part, what I think it means to advance the Kingdom
Nice post! I see evil as the inability to love God, others, and self.
I think we are all born into bondage to evil, and need a savior.
Thanks for the shout-out, though I think we probably owe a lot of our thinking to LeRon. I was unclear about the distinction between tangible and intangible. Is this a distinction people have been making in discussions of this question? I have missed it in that case. I have just recently been reading a book called, “Evil in Modern Thought,” which is really excellent. It talks about how this concern to answer the same theodicean questions actually guided the whole modern era. I think these issues are very timely but unfortunately sometimes dealt a glancing blow by post-modernity.
Whoa. I think YOU are a theodicean question.
Strike true, Mark Van Steenwyk.
Actually, I’ve never heard it couched in “intangible versus tangible” language. I assume that the issue is whether or not evil has being or essence. Does it “exist” or is the absence of being or existence?
I’m not sure that this is the right question to ask. I believe that it does exist, in a manner. Relationships can become twisted and broken and corrupted. And if I go with LeRon here, I’m tempted to say that these corrupted relationships give rise to essential evil. But I’m not sure. These are lofty waters in which to swim. I’d rather stay within the realm of ethics on this question, since the issue and response to the issue are clearer (but not by much).
Mark:
You say “God didn’t create evil”, which I tend to agree with. But instead of facing the issue by saying that “creatures reach beyond themselves…[to]corrupt the good”, I wonder if a different framing is more beneficial.
For instance, is it evil for a father to kill his children? For humans we would say “yes”. But for gorillas or for feral cats? Not really. We would instead say they are taking part in the natural order of things - they’re not being evil - they just being cats, and, arguably, good cats at that.
What about a God who would allow Job to be tormented, or cause Pharoah to be hardened, or the earth to be flooded, or (like in John 9:1-3) cause blindness so that his glory can be shown? Perhaps seeing a God who acts like this should challenge our very notion of what evil really is, since calling such things evil would imply that God Himself is evil?
What if our definition of evil is from a perspective that doesn’t grasp the larger trajectory of things? Perhaps being “called out” in Christ is being called out of the natural order into a more “salutary ordering”? (In keeping with the LeRon language.)
In any case, I check up on your blog occasionally, and this post struck a particular chord. I was in several classes with both you and Chris at Bethel.
Good stuff.