Comments on: Children, Nursery Rhymes, and the Happy Hawthorn http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2009/12/children-nursery-rhymes-and-the-happy-hawthorn/ the radical way of Jesus in the Empire Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:17:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: judylf http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2009/12/children-nursery-rhymes-and-the-happy-hawthorn/comment-page-1/#comment-15473 judylf Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:04:49 +0000 http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=3450#comment-15473 Mark,<br>Nice piece. I found personally that my children were wonderful gifts from a God with a real sense of humor who never fails to challenge. When my son was 5 and my daughter a newborn, I found a church community that felt like it really tried to embody the radical way of Jesus. My husband and I have modeled our faith and our values in what seemed like age-appropriate ways. We talked proactively, or reactively if need be, about where our children might find themselves at odds with popular expectations and values, and why we strive to be different. We are constantly in dialogue with them even now as they are 23 and 18. Relish this joy and challenge that is parenting...:)<br>Peace,<br>Judy Mark,
Nice piece. I found personally that my children were wonderful gifts from a God with a real sense of humor who never fails to challenge. When my son was 5 and my daughter a newborn, I found a church community that felt like it really tried to embody the radical way of Jesus. My husband and I have modeled our faith and our values in what seemed like age-appropriate ways. We talked proactively, or reactively if need be, about where our children might find themselves at odds with popular expectations and values, and why we strive to be different. We are constantly in dialogue with them even now as they are 23 and 18. Relish this joy and challenge that is parenting…:)
Peace,
Judy

]]> By: DustinH http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2009/12/children-nursery-rhymes-and-the-happy-hawthorn/comment-page-1/#comment-15325 DustinH Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:43:37 +0000 http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=3450#comment-15325 In large part, I believe, as you seem to allude to in your words, that the influence I can have on my children is through my embodied example. It is through the way I live my life and how I might point out those instances of oppression, marginalization and the like to my children (at the appropriate time) that can provide the most appropriate opportunity for "subversive parenting" :)<br><br>Yet, I also must admit that it is much easier to allow my two-year old little girl watch the Disney channel while I finish school work than wait till she goes to bed and spend quality time with her away from TV. That's the temptation in parenting, especially when life is busy--to allow someone else to parent for you, even if only passively. <br><br>We must constantly consider new ways of helping our kids 'see behind the curtain' of the world as it is presented to them, and we must do it creatively and constructively. Yet, all that takes time most parents aren't willing to give. In large part, I believe, as you seem to allude to in your words, that the influence I can have on my children is through my embodied example. It is through the way I live my life and how I might point out those instances of oppression, marginalization and the like to my children (at the appropriate time) that can provide the most appropriate opportunity for “subversive parenting” :)

Yet, I also must admit that it is much easier to allow my two-year old little girl watch the Disney channel while I finish school work than wait till she goes to bed and spend quality time with her away from TV. That's the temptation in parenting, especially when life is busy–to allow someone else to parent for you, even if only passively.

We must constantly consider new ways of helping our kids 'see behind the curtain' of the world as it is presented to them, and we must do it creatively and constructively. Yet, all that takes time most parents aren't willing to give.

]]> By: DustinH http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2009/12/children-nursery-rhymes-and-the-happy-hawthorn/comment-page-1/#comment-15318 DustinH Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:43:37 +0000 http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=3450#comment-15318 In large part, I believe, as you seem to allude to in your words, that the influence I can have on my children is through my embodied example. It is through the way I live my life and how I might point out those instances of oppression, marginalization and the like to my children (at the appropriate time) that can provide the most appropriate opportunity for "subversive parenting" :)<br><br>Yet, I also must admit that it is much easier to allow my two-year old little girl watch the Disney channel while I finish school work than wait till she goes to bed and spend quality time with her away from TV. That's the temptation in parenting, especially when life is busy--to allow someone else to parent for you, even if only passively. <br><br>We must constantly consider new ways of helping our kids 'see behind the curtain' of the world as it is presented to them, and we must do it creatively and constructively. Yet, all that takes time most parents aren't willing to give. In large part, I believe, as you seem to allude to in your words, that the influence I can have on my children is through my embodied example. It is through the way I live my life and how I might point out those instances of oppression, marginalization and the like to my children (at the appropriate time) that can provide the most appropriate opportunity for “subversive parenting” :)

Yet, I also must admit that it is much easier to allow my two-year old little girl watch the Disney channel while I finish school work than wait till she goes to bed and spend quality time with her away from TV. That's the temptation in parenting, especially when life is busy–to allow someone else to parent for you, even if only passively.

We must constantly consider new ways of helping our kids 'see behind the curtain' of the world as it is presented to them, and we must do it creatively and constructively. Yet, all that takes time most parents aren't willing to give.

]]> By: hewhocutsdown http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2009/12/children-nursery-rhymes-and-the-happy-hawthorn/comment-page-1/#comment-15314 hewhocutsdown Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:01:11 +0000 http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=3450#comment-15314 I've got some George MacDonald and Neal Gaiman's 'Odd & The Frost Giants', sitting on my bookshelf, biding their time. I've got some George MacDonald and Neal Gaiman's 'Odd & The Frost Giants', sitting on my bookshelf, biding their time.

]]> By: Talls http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2009/12/children-nursery-rhymes-and-the-happy-hawthorn/comment-page-1/#comment-15307 Talls Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:36:31 +0000 http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=3450#comment-15307 I know people that encourage the growth of poison ivy to help protect areas of wilderness from being trampled by inattentive trail wanderers. Poison Ivy demands a kind of respect most other plants are too meek to assert. I think there's a nursery rhyme somewhere in that. heh I know people that encourage the growth of poison ivy to help protect areas of wilderness from being trampled by inattentive trail wanderers. Poison Ivy demands a kind of respect most other plants are too meek to assert. I think there's a nursery rhyme somewhere in that. heh

]]> By: bexgee http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2009/12/children-nursery-rhymes-and-the-happy-hawthorn/comment-page-1/#comment-15306 bexgee Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:46:32 +0000 http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=3450#comment-15306 Just don't read the kid the McGuffy Reader whatever you do. Just don't read the kid the McGuffy Reader whatever you do.

]]> By: mariakirby http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2009/12/children-nursery-rhymes-and-the-happy-hawthorn/comment-page-1/#comment-15305 mariakirby Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:29:49 +0000 http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=3450#comment-15305 The original version of the Frog Prince is rather subversive, as I believe a number of Aesop's Fables. I particularly like the one about the Lion and the Mouse. And I liked the story of the poor girl who meets the twelve months, which I believe is a Scandinavian tale. And then there's the poem of the Spider and the Fly. There's lots of good stuff out there in every culture -you just have to know where to look. The original version of the Frog Prince is rather subversive, as I believe a number of Aesop's Fables. I particularly like the one about the Lion and the Mouse. And I liked the story of the poor girl who meets the twelve months, which I believe is a Scandinavian tale. And then there's the poem of the Spider and the Fly. There's lots of good stuff out there in every culture -you just have to know where to look.

]]> By: Josh Linton http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2009/12/children-nursery-rhymes-and-the-happy-hawthorn/comment-page-1/#comment-15297 Josh Linton Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:01:39 +0000 http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=3450#comment-15297 Mark,<br><br>Interesting. This is no reflection on your article, but I typically break out in a cold sweat when faced with parenting suggestions, advice or questions. I had my first kid in high school. He is 13 now and I know that I have miserably failed (with him and my other two). But this really is good stuff and thought provoking. I'm always looking for a positive direction as I'm parenting off the cuff. <br><br>Thanks. Mark,

Interesting. This is no reflection on your article, but I typically break out in a cold sweat when faced with parenting suggestions, advice or questions. I had my first kid in high school. He is 13 now and I know that I have miserably failed (with him and my other two). But this really is good stuff and thought provoking. I'm always looking for a positive direction as I'm parenting off the cuff.

Thanks.

]]> By: markvans http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2009/12/children-nursery-rhymes-and-the-happy-hawthorn/comment-page-1/#comment-15294 markvans Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:39:04 +0000 http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=3450#comment-15294 Well, that depends. But some folks would hang out around the bonfire on<br>April 30th anticipating May 1...and they'd have a big party, drinking, and<br>having orgies and whatnot. May 1st was the coming of Summer and the return<br>of hope. Well, that depends. But some folks would hang out around the bonfire on
April 30th anticipating May 1…and they'd have a big party, drinking, and
having orgies and whatnot. May 1st was the coming of Summer and the return
of hope.

]]> By: jurisnaturalist http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2009/12/children-nursery-rhymes-and-the-happy-hawthorn/comment-page-1/#comment-15293 jurisnaturalist Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:36:46 +0000 http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=3450#comment-15293 Cool, so May 1 = end of privilege day, etc. What significance did the celts, etc, attach to the day, other than astronomically? Cool, so May 1 = end of privilege day, etc. What significance did the celts, etc, attach to the day, other than astronomically?

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