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		<title>By: paul munn</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul munn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Doonesbury is starting a series of comics related to this: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2009/08/03/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;133 C Street&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s a recent article about it, too (though they refer to it as &quot;the Fellowship;&quot; and make it sound like an intentional Christian community!): &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25139.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Sex scandal meets spirituality on C Street&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Doonesbury is starting a series of comics related to this: <a href="http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2009/08/03/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;133 C Street&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Here&#39;s a recent article about it, too (though they refer to it as &#8220;the Fellowship;&#8221; and make it sound like an intentional Christian community!): <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25139.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Sex scandal meets spirituality on C Street&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>By: paul munn</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2009/07/all-in-the-family-an-interview-with-jeff-sharlet/comment-page-1/#comment-14471</link>
		<dc:creator>paul munn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Doonesbury is starting a series of comics related to this: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2009/08/03/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;133 C Street&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s a recent article about it, too (though they refer to it as &quot;the Fellowship;&quot; and make it sound like an intentional Christian community!): &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25139.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Sex scandal meets spirituality on C Street&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Doonesbury is starting a series of comics related to this: <a href="http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2009/08/03/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;133 C Street&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Here&#39;s a recent article about it, too (though they refer to it as &#8220;the Fellowship;&#8221; and make it sound like an intentional Christian community!): <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25139.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Sex scandal meets spirituality on C Street&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Casey </title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly think the two are related, although Dominionism is broader in scope.  I don&#039;t know if Rushdoony was involved with the Family and yes I would classify the schools of thought as postmillenial even though many who are de-facto  Dominionists belong  to historically premillenial churches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly think the two are related, although Dominionism is broader in scope.  I don&#39;t know if Rushdoony was involved with the Family and yes I would classify the schools of thought as postmillenial even though many who are de-facto  Dominionists belong  to historically premillenial churches.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zack Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think Dominion Theology is related to Christian Reconstructionism, which is purely USAmerican? Was R.J. Rushdoony involved with &quot;The Family&quot;? I&#039;m pretty sure Christian Reconstructionism is inherently Postmillennial, which is a bit dominion-ish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think Dominion Theology is related to Christian Reconstructionism, which is purely USAmerican? Was R.J. Rushdoony involved with &#8220;The Family&#8221;? I&#39;m pretty sure Christian Reconstructionism is inherently Postmillennial, which is a bit dominion-ish.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey </title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The  original intent of the Establishment Clause was to prevent the government from manipulating religion for its own purposes, as had been the practice in Europe.  The right to freedom of religion is mentioned along with the right to peaceably assemble and petition.  The Framers understood the Church had a necessary and prophetic role in the civic arena.  MLK&#039;s fight for civil rights is an example of this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It appears &quot;The Family&quot; is part of the larger Dominion Theology movement which advocates the establishment of God&#039;s rule on earth thru the use (and manipulation) of the existing political and commercial systems.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Christians need to be continually reminded that our &quot;Kingdom is not of this world&quot; and &quot;not by power, not by might, but by My Spirit, says the Lord.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The  original intent of the Establishment Clause was to prevent the government from manipulating religion for its own purposes, as had been the practice in Europe.  The right to freedom of religion is mentioned along with the right to peaceably assemble and petition.  The Framers understood the Church had a necessary and prophetic role in the civic arena.  MLK&#39;s fight for civil rights is an example of this.</p>
<p>It appears &#8220;The Family&#8221; is part of the larger Dominion Theology movement which advocates the establishment of God&#39;s rule on earth thru the use (and manipulation) of the existing political and commercial systems.  </p>
<p>Christians need to be continually reminded that our &#8220;Kingdom is not of this world&#8221; and &#8220;not by power, not by might, but by My Spirit, says the Lord.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: the Jesus Manifesto &#187; All in &#8220;The Family&#8221; (an interview with Jeff Sharlet) at Theoblogical</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Jesus Manifesto &#187; All in &#8220;The Family&#8221; (an interview with Jeff Sharlet) at Theoblogical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A Must Read &#171; On Beauty&#8217;s Road&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Must Read &#171; On Beauty&#8217;s Road&#8230;</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Must&#160;Read  This one makes your skin crawl&#8230;.but Jeff Sharlet&#8217;s book &#8220;The Family&#8221; is, I believe, and important book. It [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bexgee</title>
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		<dc:creator>bexgee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh - the shortened version of this interview is now posted at the God&#039;s Politics blog. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/24/mark-sanford-john-ensign-and-the-family/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/24/mark-sanford-jo...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh &#8211; the shortened version of this interview is now posted at the God&#39;s Politics blog. </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/24/mark-sanford-john-ensign-and-the-family/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/24/mark-sanford-jo.." rel="nofollow">http://blog.sojo.net/2009/07/24/mark-sanford-jo..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: bexgee</title>
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		<dc:creator>bexgee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul - While the Family hosts the NPB, invites come on Congressional letterhead. Press access is granted through the White House. At what point do we go &quot;whoa?&quot; regarding the separation of church and state here? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you read &quot;The Family,&quot; Sharlet goes on about how this event has become a way for foreign dignitaries to bypass the state department. They can buy a table at the NBP, get their pic taken with the President and then use that photo to prove their street cred back home. Praying isn&#039;t the only thing that&#039;s going on at this event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; While the Family hosts the NPB, invites come on Congressional letterhead. Press access is granted through the White House. At what point do we go &#8220;whoa?&#8221; regarding the separation of church and state here? </p>
<p>If you read &#8220;The Family,&#8221; Sharlet goes on about how this event has become a way for foreign dignitaries to bypass the state department. They can buy a table at the NBP, get their pic taken with the President and then use that photo to prove their street cred back home. Praying isn&#39;t the only thing that&#39;s going on at this event.</p>
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		<title>By: paul munn</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul munn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shalet wrote an article for Harper&#039;s in 2003 (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;available here&lt;/a&gt;), in which he claimed:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_%28Christian_political_organization%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Family&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; only publicized gathering is the National Prayer Breakfast, which it established in 1953 and which, with congressional sponsorship, it continues to organize every February in Washington, D.C. Each year 3,000 dignitaries, representing scores of nations, pay $425 each to attend. Steadfastly ecumenical, too bland most years to merit much press, the breakfast is regarded by the Family as merely a tool in a larger purpose: to recruit the powerful attendees into smaller, more frequent prayer meetings, where they can “meet Jesus man to man.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;As is traditional for presidents now, Obama spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast this year. I think his comments there demonstrate a pragmatic understanding of faith and politics that is much milder but in some respects fundamentally the same as that of the Family: God works his purposes through the Power of the People.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For example, from Obama&#039;s NPB address [italics are mine]:&lt;blockquote&gt;I didn’t become a Christian until many years later, when I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college. It happened not because of indoctrination or a sudden revelation, but because I spent month after month working with church folks who simply wanted to help neighbors who were down on their luck – no matter what they looked like, or where they came from, or who they prayed to. It was on those streets, in those neighborhoods, that I first heard God’s spirit beckon me. &lt;i&gt;It was there that I felt called to a higher purpose – His purpose.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In different ways and different forms, it is that spirit and sense of purpose that drew friends and neighbors to that first prayer breakfast in Seattle all those years ago, during another trying time for our nation. It is what led friends and neighbors from so many faiths and nations here today. We come to break bread and give thanks and seek guidance, but also to rededicate ourselves to the mission of love and service that lies at the heart of all humanity. As St. Augustine once said, &quot;Pray as though everything depended on God. Work as though everything depended on you.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So let us pray together on this February morning, but let us also work together in all the days and months ahead. &lt;i&gt;For it is only through common struggle and common effort, as brothers and sisters, that we fulfill our highest purpose as beloved children of God.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;This view is also shared by many, many people (where the Family&#039;s view is a bit too extreme for most people). And that Augustine quote is a hugely popular one, always used with the emphasis on &quot;work as though everything depended on you.&quot; Which is quite useful for those who want to harness the Power of the People. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(I think we should also &lt;a href=&quot;http://cimarronline.blogspot.com/2007/07/for-he-stands-at-right-hand-of-needy.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;work&lt;/i&gt; as if everything depended on God&lt;/a&gt;...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shalet wrote an article for Harper&#39;s in 2003 (<a href="http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525" rel="nofollow">available here</a>), in which he claimed:<br />
<blockquote><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_%28Christian_political_organization%29" rel="nofollow">The Family&#39;s</a> only publicized gathering is the National Prayer Breakfast, which it established in 1953 and which, with congressional sponsorship, it continues to organize every February in Washington, D.C. Each year 3,000 dignitaries, representing scores of nations, pay $425 each to attend. Steadfastly ecumenical, too bland most years to merit much press, the breakfast is regarded by the Family as merely a tool in a larger purpose: to recruit the powerful attendees into smaller, more frequent prayer meetings, where they can “meet Jesus man to man.”</p></blockquote>
<p>As is traditional for presidents now, Obama spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast this year. I think his comments there demonstrate a pragmatic understanding of faith and politics that is much milder but in some respects fundamentally the same as that of the Family: God works his purposes through the Power of the People.</p>
<p>For example, from Obama&#39;s NPB address [italics are mine]:<br />
<blockquote>I didn’t become a Christian until many years later, when I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college. It happened not because of indoctrination or a sudden revelation, but because I spent month after month working with church folks who simply wanted to help neighbors who were down on their luck – no matter what they looked like, or where they came from, or who they prayed to. It was on those streets, in those neighborhoods, that I first heard God’s spirit beckon me. <i>It was there that I felt called to a higher purpose – His purpose.</i></p>
<p>In different ways and different forms, it is that spirit and sense of purpose that drew friends and neighbors to that first prayer breakfast in Seattle all those years ago, during another trying time for our nation. It is what led friends and neighbors from so many faiths and nations here today. We come to break bread and give thanks and seek guidance, but also to rededicate ourselves to the mission of love and service that lies at the heart of all humanity. As St. Augustine once said, &#8220;Pray as though everything depended on God. Work as though everything depended on you.&#8221;</p>
<p>So let us pray together on this February morning, but let us also work together in all the days and months ahead. <i>For it is only through common struggle and common effort, as brothers and sisters, that we fulfill our highest purpose as beloved children of God.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>This view is also shared by many, many people (where the Family&#39;s view is a bit too extreme for most people). And that Augustine quote is a hugely popular one, always used with the emphasis on &#8220;work as though everything depended on you.&#8221; Which is quite useful for those who want to harness the Power of the People. </p>
<p>(I think we should also <a href="http://cimarronline.blogspot.com/2007/07/for-he-stands-at-right-hand-of-needy.html" rel="nofollow"><i>work</i> as if everything depended on God</a>&#8230;)</p>
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