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In my mind the flaw with voting is that people view that as their only public responsibility, when in fact voting is what gives the citizen power to influence his government in other ways, i.e. letter writing, etc. It's not like our elected officials have made up their minds before being elected and then they won't change after their elected.

Also, there is no rule that says we have to vote either Republican or Democrat. I think the either/or mentality has gotten us kind of stuck. Life just isn't so black and white. And the candidates aren't really so different from each other that we need to think that one or the other or both are of the devil.

In my mind the flaw with voting is that people view that as their only public responsibility, when in fact voting is what gives the citizen power to influence his government in other ways, i.e. letter writing, etc. It's not like our elected officials have made up their minds before being elected and then they won't change after their elected.

Also, there is no rule that says we have to vote either Republican or Democrat. I think the either/or mentality has gotten us kind of stuck. Life just isn't so black and white. And the candidates aren't really so different from each other that we need to think that one or the other or both are of the devil.

In my mind the flaw with voting is that people view that as their only public responsibility, when in fact voting is what gives the citizen power to influence his government in other ways, i.e. letter writing, etc. It's not like our elected officials have made up their minds before being elected and then they won't change after their elected.

Also, there is no rule that says we have to vote either Republican or Democrat. I think the either/or mentality has gotten us kind of stuck. Life just isn't so black and white. And the candidates aren't really so different from each other that we need to think that one or the other or both are of the devil.

That is a typo, right? I think the conservative estimate would be more like 600,000. The president's “shock & awe” speech in March of 2003 was what transformed my fear that Bush was no Christian from a “probably” to a “definitely.” It wasn't simply what he had done by way of invading Iraq without real cause. What really got me was at the end of his speech when he asked the nation to pray for “our soldiers” and for the families of any them who had been injured or killed.

Setting aside the troubling fact that Bush had already said God had personally okayed this course of action, one has to wonder how anyone could stand there and address the nation knowing full well that US bombs had already killed thousands (and most likely tens of thousands) of innocent civilians and, as the supposed born-again Christian leader of a supposedly Christian nation, not ask that nation to also pray for them and their families. And of course he closed his speech with a “May God bless America.”

I've often wondered how different things would have been had he actually been the type of man who could have genuinely asked his country to pray for all of the victims and then asked God to bless us as well as the Iraqis. And how different things would have turned out, given what he actually did say, had this supposedly Christian nation snapped out of its Rovian Stupor and realized that whatever god this politician was getting directions from it was way, way smaller than the one Jesus was calling Father.

That is a typo, right? I think the conservative estimate would be more like 600,000. The president's “shock & awe” speech in March of 2003 was what transformed my fear that Bush was no Christian from a “probably” to a “definitely.” It wasn't simply what he had done by way of invading Iraq without real cause. What really got me was at the end of his speech when he asked the nation to pray for “our soldiers” and for the families of any them who had been injured or killed.

Setting aside the troubling fact that Bush had already said God had personally okayed this course of action, one has to wonder how anyone could stand there and address the nation knowing full well that US bombs had already killed thousands (and most likely tens of thousands) of innocent civilians and, as the supposed born-again Christian leader of a supposedly Christian nation, not ask that nation to also pray for them and their families. And of course he closed his speech with a “May God bless America.”

I've often wondered how different things would have been had he actually been the type of man who could have genuinely asked his country to pray for all of the victims and then asked God to bless us as well as the Iraqis. And how different things would have turned out, given what he actually did say, had this supposedly Christian nation snapped out of its Rovian Stupor and realized that whatever god this politician was getting directions from it was way, way smaller than the one Jesus was calling Father.

However, our economy is not based on rewarding the hard-working. Our economy is based on a global system of Apartheid where those who work hardest see least of the benefits and wealth is mostly accumulated in the hands of the few. If our wealth has been accumulated by the exploitation of people (and/or natural resources, which often goes hand-in-hand), it is undoubtedly a bad thing.

Unfortunately, we all unwittingly participate in this evil, and it is hard to see how to break down the system. The millions who barely scrape together a life so that we can retail products to sustain our standard of living are simply disposable parts of the machinery. Those at the bottom (and there is a big bottom with almost 3 billion people below the $2 per day poverty threshold) are often directly or indirectly victims of our own vanity and greed.

However, our economy is not based on rewarding the hard-working. Our economy is based on a global system of Apartheid where those who work hardest see least of the benefits and wealth is mostly accumulated in the hands of the few. If our wealth has been accumulated by the exploitation of people (and/or natural resources, which often goes hand-in-hand), it is undoubtedly a bad thing.

Unfortunately, we all unwittingly participate in this evil, and it is hard to see how to break down the system. The millions who barely scrape together a life so that we can retail products to sustain our standard of living are simply disposable parts of the machinery. Those at the bottom (and there is a big bottom with almost 3 billion people below the $2 per day poverty threshold) are often directly or indirectly victims of our own vanity and greed.

I realize I'm being simplistic here, so touche on that point. I do realize that I'm writing a comment on a blog post, so this isn't exactly a systematic theology or anything (on either side). And I'm not trying to be cynical here (I'm voting the candidate who is touting “Hope,” right?), but I am pretty skeptical that the majority of Claibornagains out there are really going beyond just “opting out” to the “overall strategy” you are talking about. My concern is that “Jesus For President” has become a rallying cry for the disinterested and disaffected to just not care about what happens in our present political/governmental system. This is honestly what I'm hearing from more and more people every day: “I just don't care about this election.” With so much at stake, it troubles me that “Jesus For President” may just be a philosophical/theological/intellectual “Eject” button for a lot of people. Does this concern you at all??

Rather, I want to encourage change through non-violent means, through the Kingdom and voluntary interaction, rather than via the Sword.

And, Mark, I absolutely agreed about alternative systems. I am particularly reading a lot on various forms of mutualism and agorism, lately.