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	<title>Comments on: Americans 12:9-3:10</title>
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		<title>By: markvans</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2008/07/americans-129-310/comment-page-1/#comment-15468</link>
		<dc:creator>markvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was being tongue-in-cheek. I&#039;m fairly confident that no one will feel encouraged to drink coke or eat McDonald&#039;s based upon the example set here. Nevertheless, I understand your point and should have used different wording, to set a more consistent message in the loose paraphrase I offered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was being tongue-in-cheek. I&#39;m fairly confident that no one will feel encouraged to drink coke or eat McDonald&#39;s based upon the example set here. Nevertheless, I understand your point and should have used different wording, to set a more consistent message in the loose paraphrase I offered.</p>
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		<title>By: The Progressive Prophet</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2008/07/americans-129-310/comment-page-1/#comment-15467</link>
		<dc:creator>The Progressive Prophet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did enjoy this paraphrasing a great deal, and for the most part I find it to be Biblically sound. Well done for offering an adaptation which both speaks of our allegiance to Christ alone, as well as how we should respond to the nation state.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do have just one point of constructive citicism: The references to McDonalds and Coca-Cola annoyed me a bit, since they didn&#039;t seem to fit into the context of a Christian response to the Empire. I realise that their mentions were casual and that they weren&#039;t really the point, but all the same I think we ought to be a little more mindful of the example we give to others. On top of being a major corporation, McDonalds is one huge example of a fast-food industry relying upon intensive factory farming which not only bears appalling animal welfare records, but also churns out its products at a huge cost to the environment and the earth&#039;s resources. Similarly, Coca-Cola has come under serious allegations in recent years for depleting water supplies in developing nations and leaving them polluted and poisonous. I really didn&#039;t think that these were the best examples of how to love our enemies, if buying from these institutions comes at the cost of loving our neighbours. For a website which encourages Christians to be set apart from the systems of the Empire, it struck me as a little off to find references to two companies which are placed firmly within it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Beyond that one point, though, I loved everything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did enjoy this paraphrasing a great deal, and for the most part I find it to be Biblically sound. Well done for offering an adaptation which both speaks of our allegiance to Christ alone, as well as how we should respond to the nation state.</p>
<p>I do have just one point of constructive citicism: The references to McDonalds and Coca-Cola annoyed me a bit, since they didn&#39;t seem to fit into the context of a Christian response to the Empire. I realise that their mentions were casual and that they weren&#39;t really the point, but all the same I think we ought to be a little more mindful of the example we give to others. On top of being a major corporation, McDonalds is one huge example of a fast-food industry relying upon intensive factory farming which not only bears appalling animal welfare records, but also churns out its products at a huge cost to the environment and the earth&#39;s resources. Similarly, Coca-Cola has come under serious allegations in recent years for depleting water supplies in developing nations and leaving them polluted and poisonous. I really didn&#39;t think that these were the best examples of how to love our enemies, if buying from these institutions comes at the cost of loving our neighbours. For a website which encourages Christians to be set apart from the systems of the Empire, it struck me as a little off to find references to two companies which are placed firmly within it.</p>
<p>Beyond that one point, though, I loved everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: markvans</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2008/07/americans-129-310/comment-page-1/#comment-9808</link>
		<dc:creator>markvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was being tongue-in-cheek. I&#039;m fairly confident that no one will feel encouraged to drink coke or eat McDonald&#039;s based upon the example set here. Nevertheless, I understand your point and should have used different wording, to set a more consistent message in the loose paraphrase I offered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was being tongue-in-cheek. I&#8217;m fairly confident that no one will feel encouraged to drink coke or eat McDonald&#8217;s based upon the example set here. Nevertheless, I understand your point and should have used different wording, to set a more consistent message in the loose paraphrase I offered.</p>
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		<title>By: markvans</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2008/07/americans-129-310/comment-page-1/#comment-11944</link>
		<dc:creator>markvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 03:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was being tongue-in-cheek. I&#039;m fairly confident that no one will feel encouraged to drink coke or eat McDonald&#039;s based upon the example set here. Nevertheless, I understand your point and should have used different wording, to set a more consistent message in the loose paraphrase I offered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was being tongue-in-cheek. I&#39;m fairly confident that no one will feel encouraged to drink coke or eat McDonald&#39;s based upon the example set here. Nevertheless, I understand your point and should have used different wording, to set a more consistent message in the loose paraphrase I offered.</p>
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		<title>By: The Progressive Prophet</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2008/07/americans-129-310/comment-page-1/#comment-9807</link>
		<dc:creator>The Progressive Prophet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did enjoy this paraphrasing a great deal, and for the most part I find it to be Biblically sound. Well done for offering an adaptation which both speaks of our allegiance to Christ alone, as well as how we should respond to the nation state.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do have just one point of constructive citicism: The references to McDonalds and Coca-Cola annoyed me a bit, since they didn&#039;t seem to fit into the context of a Christian response to the Empire. I realise that their mentions were casual and that they weren&#039;t really the point, but all the same I think we ought to be a little more mindful of the example we give to others. On top of being a major corporation, McDonalds is one huge example of a fast-food industry relying upon intensive factory farming which not only bears appalling animal welfare records, but also churns out its products at a huge cost to the environment and the earth&#039;s resources. Similarly, Coca-Cola has come under serious allegations in recent years for depleting water supplies in developing nations and leaving them polluted and poisonous. I really didn&#039;t think that these were the best examples of how to love our enemies, if buying from these institutions comes at the cost of loving our neighbours. For a website which encourages Christians to be set apart from the systems of the Empire, it struck me as a little off to find references to two companies which are placed firmly within it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Beyond that one point, though, I loved everything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did enjoy this paraphrasing a great deal, and for the most part I find it to be Biblically sound. Well done for offering an adaptation which both speaks of our allegiance to Christ alone, as well as how we should respond to the nation state.</p>
<p>I do have just one point of constructive citicism: The references to McDonalds and Coca-Cola annoyed me a bit, since they didn&#8217;t seem to fit into the context of a Christian response to the Empire. I realise that their mentions were casual and that they weren&#8217;t really the point, but all the same I think we ought to be a little more mindful of the example we give to others. On top of being a major corporation, McDonalds is one huge example of a fast-food industry relying upon intensive factory farming which not only bears appalling animal welfare records, but also churns out its products at a huge cost to the environment and the earth&#8217;s resources. Similarly, Coca-Cola has come under serious allegations in recent years for depleting water supplies in developing nations and leaving them polluted and poisonous. I really didn&#8217;t think that these were the best examples of how to love our enemies, if buying from these institutions comes at the cost of loving our neighbours. For a website which encourages Christians to be set apart from the systems of the Empire, it struck me as a little off to find references to two companies which are placed firmly within it.</p>
<p>Beyond that one point, though, I loved everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: The Progressive Prophet</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2008/07/americans-129-310/comment-page-1/#comment-11943</link>
		<dc:creator>The Progressive Prophet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did enjoy this paraphrasing a great deal, and for the most part I find it to be Biblically sound. Well done for offering an adaptation which both speaks of our allegiance to Christ alone, as well as how we should respond to the nation state.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do have just one point of constructive citicism: The references to McDonalds and Coca-Cola annoyed me a bit, since they didn&#039;t seem to fit into the context of a Christian response to the Empire. I realise that their mentions were casual and that they weren&#039;t really the point, but all the same I think we ought to be a little more mindful of the example we give to others. On top of being a major corporation, McDonalds is one huge example of a fast-food industry relying upon intensive factory farming which not only bears appalling animal welfare records, but also churns out its products at a huge cost to the environment and the earth&#039;s resources. Similarly, Coca-Cola has come under serious allegations in recent years for depleting water supplies in developing nations and leaving them polluted and poisonous. I really didn&#039;t think that these were the best examples of how to love our enemies, if buying from these institutions comes at the cost of loving our neighbours. For a website which encourages Christians to be set apart from the systems of the Empire, it struck me as a little off to find references to two companies which are placed firmly within it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Beyond that one point, though, I loved everything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did enjoy this paraphrasing a great deal, and for the most part I find it to be Biblically sound. Well done for offering an adaptation which both speaks of our allegiance to Christ alone, as well as how we should respond to the nation state.</p>
<p>I do have just one point of constructive citicism: The references to McDonalds and Coca-Cola annoyed me a bit, since they didn&#39;t seem to fit into the context of a Christian response to the Empire. I realise that their mentions were casual and that they weren&#39;t really the point, but all the same I think we ought to be a little more mindful of the example we give to others. On top of being a major corporation, McDonalds is one huge example of a fast-food industry relying upon intensive factory farming which not only bears appalling animal welfare records, but also churns out its products at a huge cost to the environment and the earth&#39;s resources. Similarly, Coca-Cola has come under serious allegations in recent years for depleting water supplies in developing nations and leaving them polluted and poisonous. I really didn&#39;t think that these were the best examples of how to love our enemies, if buying from these institutions comes at the cost of loving our neighbours. For a website which encourages Christians to be set apart from the systems of the Empire, it struck me as a little off to find references to two companies which are placed firmly within it.</p>
<p>Beyond that one point, though, I loved everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2008/07/americans-129-310/comment-page-1/#comment-9806</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful reminder and summation of why she should stay positive and good, not practicing constant subversiveness. To &quot;submit&quot; is the only way to allow the government to actually do what they are supposed to do. Whether or not they follow in the exact way we think is right, we are under God and should follow his commands and keep love first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful reminder and summation of why she should stay positive and good, not practicing constant subversiveness. To &#8220;submit&#8221; is the only way to allow the government to actually do what they are supposed to do. Whether or not they follow in the exact way we think is right, we are under God and should follow his commands and keep love first.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2008/07/americans-129-310/comment-page-1/#comment-11942</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful reminder and summation of why she should stay positive and good, not practicing constant subversiveness. To &quot;submit&quot; is the only way to allow the government to actually do what they are supposed to do. Whether or not they follow in the exact way we think is right, we are under God and should follow his commands and keep love first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful reminder and summation of why she should stay positive and good, not practicing constant subversiveness. To &#8220;submit&#8221; is the only way to allow the government to actually do what they are supposed to do. Whether or not they follow in the exact way we think is right, we are under God and should follow his commands and keep love first.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Duregger</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2008/07/americans-129-310/comment-page-1/#comment-9805</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Duregger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I explain to people that, from a Biblical point of view, I am a subject, by birth, of the United States government.  I am a subject, not an allegient, as my allegience is with the Kingdom of Heaven and i will do nothing which puts that loyalty into question in the eyes of my Heavenly Soveriegn.  This fact, because of His righteous commandments concerning His, should make me a good subject to any human government, but, at the same time, a poor vassel.  I will not act in the place of any earthly magistry, rendering coercive force or judgement on others.  As the Apostle Paul had written, &quot;For what have I to do with judging outsiders? (1 Cor. 5:12).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I explain to people that, from a Biblical point of view, I am a subject, by birth, of the United States government.  I am a subject, not an allegient, as my allegience is with the Kingdom of Heaven and i will do nothing which puts that loyalty into question in the eyes of my Heavenly Soveriegn.  This fact, because of His righteous commandments concerning His, should make me a good subject to any human government, but, at the same time, a poor vassel.  I will not act in the place of any earthly magistry, rendering coercive force or judgement on others.  As the Apostle Paul had written, &#8220;For what have I to do with judging outsiders? (1 Cor. 5:12).</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Duregger</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2008/07/americans-129-310/comment-page-1/#comment-11941</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Duregger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I explain to people that, from a Biblical point of view, I am a subject, by birth, of the United States government.  I am a subject, not an allegient, as my allegience is with the Kingdom of Heaven and i will do nothing which puts that loyalty into question in the eyes of my Heavenly Soveriegn.  This fact, because of His righteous commandments concerning His, should make me a good subject to any human government, but, at the same time, a poor vassel.  I will not act in the place of any earthly magistry, rendering coercive force or judgement on others.  As the Apostle Paul had written, &quot;For what have I to do with judging outsiders? (1 Cor. 5:12).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I explain to people that, from a Biblical point of view, I am a subject, by birth, of the United States government.  I am a subject, not an allegient, as my allegience is with the Kingdom of Heaven and i will do nothing which puts that loyalty into question in the eyes of my Heavenly Soveriegn.  This fact, because of His righteous commandments concerning His, should make me a good subject to any human government, but, at the same time, a poor vassel.  I will not act in the place of any earthly magistry, rendering coercive force or judgement on others.  As the Apostle Paul had written, &#8220;For what have I to do with judging outsiders? (1 Cor. 5:12).</p>
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