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Talking to Saison交谈收取该笔订房房价

Written by Mark Van Steenwyk : December 26, 2006写的马克范steenwyk : 2006年12月26日

The other day at Hard Times Cafe, I had a conversation with a 30 year old African American man named Saison.其他天在艰难的时刻咖啡厅,我有一个谈话与30岁的黑人男子名为收取该笔订房房价。 The conversation stayed mostly on politics and race issues in the United States.该会话下榻的大多是对政治和种族问题在美国。 At one point he brought up the complicity of American Christianity with all-things-bad in American life.在1点,他带来了共谋美国基督教与所有的事情坏在美国的生活。

Saison shared from his own experience (I paraphrase): “When I was walking the streets of my home town, I’d run into drug dealers all the time who would try to get me to trust in Jesus–they knew that I had left the church.收取该笔订房房价的共享,从他自己的经验, (我段) : “当我走在街上的我的家乡,我要运行到毒品贩子所有的时间谁,将争取我的信任,在耶稣,他们知道我已离开教会。 One day, they’d be pushing drugs.一天,他们要推动的药物。 The next day, they’d be in church, dressed in a suit.第二天,他们愿意在教堂里,身着西装。 That’sf***ed up.” He continued to link it to the current situation: “The same thing is happening with the United States. that'sf ***教育署了“ ,他继续将它连结到目前的情况: ”同样的事情正在发生的事情与美国。 George W. goes to church every Sunday, and so do so many millions of others in America, but then he pushes a war and oil and gets rich off of others.”乔治W去教会每星期日,所以这样做,许多以百万计的其他在美国,但后来他把战争和石油和获得丰富的小康他人“ 。

Our conversation at that point went on to how most people in America may call themselves Christians, but most folks don’t act like Jesus.我们的谈话在这一点上接着就如何大多数人在美国可能的人称自己是基督徒,但大多数人不采取行动,象耶稣。 Saison isn’ta Christian–not even close.收取该笔订房房价的不是基督教甚至不密切。 But he seemed to respect Jesus.但他似乎要尊重耶稣。 But every experience of Christianity he’s had has been disconnected from regular life and lack the power to challenge or transform the injustices and/or banality around him.但每一个的经验,基督教,他的民政事务总署已被断开,从经常的生活和缺乏权力的挑战,或变换的不公正和/或平庸身边。 Around that point, he asked me what I did for a living.围绕这一点,他问我,我所做的为生活。 I said to him: “I guess you could call me a pastor.” He grimaced and then smiled.我对他说: “我猜你可以给我打电话牧师” ,他grimaced ,然后笑了。 Then he asked me a valid question: “If most Christians don’t do what Jesus did, and you think that real Christianity is about being like Jesus, then why do you call yourself a ‘Christian’…you should call yourself something else.”然后他问我一个有效的问题: “如果大部分基督徒不这样做有什么耶稣,你认为真正的基督教是被象耶稣的话,为什么你怎么称呼自己'基督教' … …你应该要求自己的另一回事。 “

What do you think?您怎么看? Should I (like my blog friend我应该(如我的博客的朋友 Graham格雷厄姆 ) stop calling myself a Christian in an effort to differentiate myself from mainstream vapid Christianity? )停止要求自己,一名基督信徒在努力区分自己从主流vapid基督教? Or is it better to redeem the name and make sure folks know what SORT of Christian I am?还是更愿意赎回的名称和作出肯定的乡亲知道什么样的基督教我?

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4 Responses to “Talking to Saison” 4回应“交谈收取该笔订房房价”

  1. Luke路加福音 on December 26th, 2006 7:35 pm关于2006年12月26日下午7时35分

    Does this community of resistance interest you?这是否社会的阻力你感兴趣的呢?

    http://www.sundancechannel.com/onepunk/

  2. fargo john on December 26th, 2006 7:45 pm法戈约翰对2006年12月26日下午7时45分

    my friend kip recently asked me, “don’t you walk with the jesus feet?” and i thought that was a good way to describe the way i’m trying to live.我的朋友硖最近问我: “你不走与耶稣的脚? ”我认为这是一个很好的方法来描述的方式我要活。 i don’t like the label christian, so i guess i’ll just tell people that i walk with the jesus feet.我不喜欢标签基督教,所以我猜想我将告诉人们,我走与耶稣的双脚。

  3. Bob Carder鲍勃carder on December 27th, 2006 7:58 pm关于2006年12月27日下午7时58分

    Mark, what your friend described is YOU living incarnationally in the world.马克,您的朋友描述的是你的生活incarnationally在世界上。 How can you say “incarnational” is a fad when that is how you live?你如何能说“ incarnational ”是一种时尚时,这是你如何生活?

    I found you on fitch site.我发现你对惠誉的网站。

    What am I missing here?有什么我失踪在这里出现?

  4. Van S范s on December 28th, 2006 10:30 am关于2006年12月28日上午10时30分

    Bob.鲍勃。 I certainly don’t think being “incarnational” (in its truest and best sense) is a fad.当然,我不认为“ incarnational ” (在其真实的和最佳的意识)是一种时尚。 However, the way many people use the term is faddish.不过,方式,许多人使用这个词是樊氏秀。

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