From Outcomes to Marks从成果到马克
Written by Mark Van Steenwyk : October 20, 2005写的马克范steenwyk ： 2005年10月20日
Yesterday during lunch, my friend Joel and I started discussing church "success."昨天在午膳，我的朋友的Joel和我开始讨论教会的“成功” 。 What would success look like for会有什么样子的成功为 Missio Dei使命dei ? ？ As much as I reject church-growth principles, I found it very difficult to articulate success in non-quantitative ways.虽然我拒绝教会增长的原则，我发现很难阐明的成功，在非量化的方法。 The American way of doing church has been thoroughly infused with pragmatism. Most of you who read this blog would agree with this assessment, and would agree that we need to move away from quantitative methods for determining "success" to something more qualitative. One problem with quantitative methods is that is doesn’t take context into consideration (any urban teacher who must raise standardized testing scores in order to keep his/her job will resonate with this reality). Every context has unique challenges. A Somali church should be evaluated differently than a suburban white church.美国的处事方法，教会已经过彻底充满了实用主义。大部分你谁阅读此博客会同意这种评估，并会同意我们需要迁离的定量测定方法的“成功”一些更多的定性。一个问题与定量相结合的方法是，是不采取的背景下考虑， （任何城市教师谁必须提高标准化测试分数，以保持他/她的工作将产生共鸣与这一现实） 。每一个背景下具有独特的挑战。索马里的教会应该加以评估不同于郊区的白色教堂。
What method should we employ? Why evaluate the health of a church at all? Well, it is good to know what is healthy within a church system and what is not, so that it may move to health. I suggest we take a page out of church history and return to the language of "marks"–what are the "marks" of a successful church?什么样的方式，我们应雇用，为何评估的健康一所教堂在所有？得好，是好事，知道什么是健康的一个教会制度和什么是不，以便它可以移动到健康，我建议我们采取一个网页列教堂的历史和返回的语言为“标志” -什么是“马克”一个成功的教会呢？
I’d like to hear some of your suggestions…but let me get the list started:我想听听您的一些建议… …但让我得到的名单开始：
- Characterized by generosity and self sacrifice.特点是慷慨和自我的牺牲。
- Practices hospitality.惯例的盛情款待。
- Moving beyond homogeneity to diversity in age, class, race, gender, ethnicity, etc. in a way that reflects context.走出同质性到多样性的年龄，阶级，种族，性别，种族等等，在方式反映。
- Proclaims the Gospel.宣布福音。
Any more suggestions? Let’s banter about what should–or should not–be included in evaluating the health and success of a church.任何更多的建议吗？让的谐谑什么应该或不应该-包括在评估的健康和成功的一所教堂。
for further reading .为进一步读。 . 。 . 。
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Mark-马克-
The Gospel and Our Culture Network has a list online that is fairly “objective” without being “quantitative” in the way you’re talking about here.福音和我们的文化网络的名单在网上是相当“客观”没有被“量化”的方式，您谈到这里。
It’s called “Emperical Indicators of a Missional Church.”它的所谓“实证指标一missional教会” 。
http://www.gocn.org/indicators.htm
Maybe this is covered in hospitality, but growing in intimacy with eachother.这也许是涵盖在招待费，但在越来越多的亲密与eachother 。 Confessing sins to eachother and spurring eachother on towards holiness seems to be necessary as well.供认捷联惯导系统，以eachother和促进eachother就对成圣，似乎是必要的，也是。
When thinking on a question like this several things come to mind.当思想的一个问题，像这样几件事，想到的。 Firstly the church should be a place which clearly proclaims that Jesus is the all satisfying hope of mankind.首先，教会应该是一个地方，这显然宣称，耶稣是所有满足人类的希望。 The gospel is not about the Lord making our lives better, but removing the barriers (sin) so that we can come to God and enjoy/glorify him.福音的是不是关于上帝使我们的生活更美好，但消除障碍（单） ，使我们可以来上帝和享受/美化他。
For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.为基督死亡的捷联惯导系统，一旦所有，正义为unrighteous ，为您带来给上帝。 1 Peter 3:18 1彼得3时18分
Next the church should be a place of genuine community.明年教会应该是一个地方，真正的社区。 Where believers can experience life together and display the love of Christ amongst each other如果信徒的经验，可以共同生活，展示基督的爱当中，对方
All the believers were one in heart and mind.所有的信徒之一，在心脏和心态。 No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had.没有人声称，他的任何财产，是他自己，但他们共同的一切他们。 Acts 4:32 4时32分行为
Lastly the Church should be the hands and feet of Jesus in a fallen world.最后，教会应该是手和脚的耶稣在倒下的世界。 We should be active in our communities bringing the love of Christ to those around us.我们应积极参与我们的社区，把基督的爱向那些在我们身边。 Those outside of the Church often know us by what we are against.这些以外的教会往往知道我们是什么，我们都反对。 The body of Christ has become a large mouth, only known for telling everyone how bad they are.基督的身体，已成为一个大口，唯一已知的告诉大家如何坏他们。 The Church is the hands of Christ bringing his compassion to our neighborhoods.教会是基督的手中，使他的同情心，我们的街道。
All other things such as love and compassion, preaching and teaching are bound up in the above statements所有其他的东西，如爱与同情，传教和教学的约束，在上述报表
Mark,马克，
You have asked a wonderful question.你问美好的质询。 I am a member of San Clemente Presbyterian Church and we are fortunate to be a fast growing church in South Orange County, CA.我是会员圣克莱门特长老教会和我们很幸运，是一个快速成长的教会在南橘县，钙。 Our pastor, Dr. Tod Bolsinger (bolsinger.blogs.com) is putting together a team focused on coming up with a vision for what we would like to be in 2035 when non of us are likely to be at the church.我们的牧师，博士tod伯尔辛格（ bolsinger.blogs.com ）是把连同一队侧重于未来与远景，我们希望能够在2035年时，非，我们很可能会在教堂。
We are going to work on this charge for over a year, talking about what is a Kingdom Community and listening to feedback from the congregation and praying for God’s wisdom.我们要这方面的工作费用超过一年，谈到什么是英国社会并听取了反馈意见会众和祈祷上帝的智慧。
Before starting to meet, I personally was interested in seeing what other Christians are writing about what composes a successful church.出发之前，以满足，我个人很感兴趣，看到什么其他的基督徒是在写什么构成一个成功的教会。 This post and Mike’s comments above are very helpful and I largely agree.这个职位和小李的上述评论是非常有帮助，我基本上同意。
SCPC’s mission statement in a nutshell and often hung in the church is to Belong, Grow, Serve.方案协调会的使命声明，总括而言，常常挂在教会是属于，成长，服务。 These concepts are articulated well above.这些概念阐述，远高于。
Additionally the church is rather multigenerational but not yet multi-racial.此外，教会是相当多，但尚未多种族。 This is something the church leadership is interested in addressing and has spent a year doing research into the needs of the hispanic community that comprises 30% of our local population.这是教会的领导是有兴趣的在处理，并已花了一年时间做研究的需要，西班牙裔社区组成的30 ％ ，本地人口。
Thank you for asking the question, and more importantly thank you all for providing rich answers.谢谢你问的问题，更重要的，谢谢大家提供了丰富的答案。 The qualitative vs. quantitative approach is also a good point.定性与定量方法，也是一个很好的点。
I look forward to sharing your thoughts with our 2035 team.我期待着分享您的想法与我们的2035队。
Kind regards,的亲切问候，
Bill Rice条例草案水稻
Jeremy,杰里米，
Yeah, the “Empirical Indicators” are a good place to look.是啊， “实证指标”是一个好地方看看。 I have a link to them on the left…I’ve also blogged about them in the past我有一个链接，他们就离开… …我已经在日志中也对他们在过去的 (here) （在这里） . 。
William–it is good to hear of a church really thinking through this stuff…God’s blessing to your efforts!威廉-它是好的，听到一所教堂真的思想，通过这种东西…上帝的祝福你的努力！
Question for y’all to consider: what role should right doctrine play in formulating church health?问题y'all考虑：什么样的作用，应发挥正确的理论，在制订教会的健康？ HOw do we articulate this?我们如何阐明这个？
Van,范，
Thanks for your reply.感谢您的回复。 I think it will be an exciting challenge for our church to go through thinking, praying and studying about, especially since we appear to be a “healthy church”.我认为这将是一个令人兴奋的挑战，为我们的教会要经过思考，祈祷和研究，尤其是因为我们似乎是一个“健康的教会” 。
I don’t have any theological training so I am not sure exactly what definition you are using for “right doctrine”.我也没有任何的神学培训，使我不能肯定究竟是什么定义，您所使用的“权利学说” 。 However I do believe it is important for any church to be successful that it has at its basis, Scripture as its ultimate foundation.不过我相信，这是很重要的任何教会要取得成功，它已在其基础上，经文作为其最终的基础。
I think there are some “quantitatively” successful churches with respect to attendance and involvment that may not be 100% doctrinally right, but rather preaching a version of Christianity that has nothing to do with its communal aspects and only about the positives of Christ’s teachings, not some of the harder to follow print in red.我认为有一些“量”成功的教会方面的出勤和参与，未必百分之一百doctrinally的权利，而是鼓吹某个版本的基督教认为，完全不符合其公用方面并只关心阳性基督的教诲，而不是部分的加倍努力，按照打印在红色。
I think the qualitative portion must come before the quanitative analysis, but ultimately both are relevant to giving a good answer.我认为定性部分必须来之前，定量分析，但最终都是有关给予一个很好的答案。
Kind regards,的亲切问候，
Bill Rice条例草案水稻
Mark,马克，
I find it interesting that in your list you did not include “coversions” as a way of measuring church health.我觉得有趣的是，在您的清单中，你不包括“ coversions ”作为一种测量教会健康。 Its easy to be internally focused on what keeps the christians happy, but lets agree, most churches that are growing are growing from the “alumni association” not from reaching the lost.其容易被国内的重点是什么使基督徒高兴，但让同意的话，大多数教会都日益成长，从“校友会” ，而不是从深远的损失。 A church that can do that effectively while simultaneously building up disciples is healthy.教会可以这样做有效，同时建立弟子是健康的。 Right?对不对？
Aaron,阿伦，
I didn’t offer a complete list…I only offered a few examples to get discussion flowing.我并没有提供一个完整的清单… …我只提供了一些例子，以获得流动的讨论。 I’d agree that conversions are important.我要同意的转换是很重要的。 But I’d want to value them in a way that isn’t dependent upon numbers.但我要要的价值在他们的方式是不取决于数字。 Numbers are a very tricky thing to base a church culture upon and are often misleading.号码是一个非常棘手的事基地，一所教堂和文化后，往往误导之嫌。 In one context a few converts is huge, in other contexts many converts may be normal…but each church has different contexts.在一背景下数转换是巨大的，在其他背景下，许多转换可能是正常的… …但每一个教会有不同的背景。 Furthermore some ministries go for “easy converts” while others try to make disciples.此外，一些部委去为“容易转换” ，而其他尝试作出的弟子。 All these sort of things need to be factored in as well.所有这类的东西，需要加以的因素，以及。
Mark,马克，
You are absolutely right that measuring success by numbers in any category of ministry can be misleading.你是绝对正确的衡量成功的数字，在任何种类的部会有误导的作用。 It assumes there is a standard that even God recognizes.它假定有一个标准，即使是上帝的认识。 Certainly there are churches that have huge membership roles but are not focused on Jesus Christ.当然有教堂，有庞大的会员国的角色，但并非集中于耶稣基督。 Didn’t Jesus say something like, “In that day many will come to me and say ‘Did we not cast out demons and heal the sick in your name….etc.’ And I will say to them, I never knew you.”Anyway thanks for your quick reply.没有耶稣说一些像“ ，在这一天许多人会到我这里来，并说'我们不投出魔鬼和医治病人，在你的名字… … 。等' ，我会跟他们说，我从来不知道你。 “无论如何，感谢您的快速回复。 By the way, what do you mean by “easy converts?”由这样，你有什么意思“ ，很容易转换成” ？