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Uma chamada para a análise de conversação

Escrito por Marca Camionete Steenwyk: Abril 23, 2005

Nós todos conhecemos os povos que são descontentados intensa com a igreja. Sentem como se a igreja é inerente quebrada e longa para algo mais melhor. Não há nada erradamente com sentimento que maneira, a um ponto. Começa problematic, entretanto, quando a pessoa na busca para a igreja authentic parece desgastar seu descontentamento como um emblema. Eu vi muitos povos atravessar abaixo uma conversação similar ao cliente fictional:

Gary o Eschewer da igreja: Yeah, eu significo, a igreja é chamada para ser como Jesus para o mundo… e tudo que eu v é igrejas que são whores ao mundo. Isso suga apenas.

Igreja que atende a Leon: Yeah, você é direito no homem. [observe o acordo fundamental]

Gary o Eschewer da igreja: Eu significo que… tudo que eu quero é uma igreja dos povos que se amam, que gasta a comunidade do edifício do tempo um com o otro, que alcança para fora aos povos onde está sem em toda a programação, uma igreja onde todos tenha um papel real, [introduza outros desejos particulares para a igreja aqui].

Igreja que atende a Leon: Yeah, aquele é o que eu estou procurando demasiado. Honesta, eu penso que minha igreja é muito como você está descrevendo. Você deve verificá-lo para fora. [Agora é possível que Leon não compreende realmente que Gary está procurando, mas é também completamente possível que Leon compreende certamente que Gary quer, e pertence a uma comunidade em que Gary pôde genuìna encontrar se satisfer.]

Gary o Eschewer da igreja: Yeah homem. Yeah. [Desvía o contato de olho, porque não está realmente interessado em verificar para fora a igreja de Leon… mesmo que não saiba qualquer coisa sobre ele.]

I’ve seen this sort of conversation play out. I’ve hear rants from people who hate the church and long for something authentic…but I have never heard someone looking for anything completely novel…and usually someone who is a part of something incredibly similar to what that person is looking for will approach that person. Sometimes, the person is happy to find a church like what they want, but many times, the person seems to be unwilling to recognize the possibilty that a church which even remotely resembles their "dream church" exists. Why is that? I have my own theories, but I want to hear yours first.

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6 Responses to “A Call for Conversational Analysis”

  1. Michelle on April 24th, 2005 11:30 am

    In psychology class they will teach you that a woman who stays in an abusive relationship will remain because in her mind the benifits out way the consequences of changing.
    When people hang onto ideas or concepts that are detrimental to them its usually because it serves some purpose in their life.
    My friend has a crissis of faith every other month, and changes chruches about every 6 months. Personally I think its for the attention it gets her. Christians will flock to those in crissis.
    Attack the badge. Don’t be impressed. Perhaps ask “What are you getting out of being disatisfied with every church? Or not accepting an invitation.”

  2. Michelle on April 24th, 2005 1:16 pm

    P.S.

    Just read bad day. Hope Amy is still healing well. How is she?

  3. Van S on April 24th, 2005 11:36 pm

    She’s doing well, thanks for asking!

  4. blorge on April 25th, 2005 11:42 am

    I don’t think it’s possible for a one-size-fits-all response to this conversation but I would have to venture to guess that Gary was at one point in a dysfunctional church or had a dysfunctional Christian witnessing to them and was hurt by someone.

    Logicians would say that Gary is projecting qualities of the particular (church) onto the universal (church).

    He seems to be rejecting Christians, not the Church in this scenereo.

  5. blorge on May 4th, 2005 10:23 am

    What do you think, Mark?

  6. Van S on May 4th, 2005 4:02 pm

    Well, I’m in a hurry right now, so I’ll briefly share a couple thoughts:

    1) I think people are very skeptical and cynical towards the promises churches offer. They won’t trust people when they say “my church is like that” because we are all too used to churches spining themselves positively to attract people.

    2) While postmodernism values community more than modernism, I think individualism in American spirituality is stronger today that it was 10 years ago. We are a culture which breeds narcissists, people believe that they should have a church that is tailored to them. They want to discover the perfect church on their own, and are often unwilling to really listen to the suggestions of others. Just a couple thoughts.

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