行情从Hybels
写由Mark范· Steenwyk ： 2005年4月2日
我读了此 一次采访在今天基督教. 比尔Hybels说：
柳树湾在时代开始了，当，作为书时
着名，教会成长人民说， “不要消散其中任一
您的与种族问题战斗的能量。 焦点一切在福音传道。“它
是教会成长的同类的单位原则。 并且我记得
一个年轻牧师认为， 那是真实的. 我是否不知道I
疏远是寻找者，永恒是的人的被要的机会
在线，并且谁也许只来到教会一次。 我要
拿走许多个障碍尽可能，除十字架之外，帮助
人焦点在福音书。那么现在， 30年后，当我读了这本书[团结由Faith]， I
认为一个真实的圣经作用的社区必须包括
multiethnic。 我的心跳那么快速地为今天那视觉。 I
奇迹在怎样na ？ve和重实效我是30年前。
我的第一反应是“称赞上帝!” 看其中一个homongenous单位原则废弃物的最大的拥护者原则是好。 我的第二反应是一个震惊。 我得到脾气坏以我知道的人数谁修造某事…上道路往快速成功的容易的方法，最新尝试然后变得诚实。 它是象使用药片和slimfast丢失重量然后设法以后吃健康那的节食者。 当人们需要如何开始一个multiethnic教会用一个健康方式时，它设置一个可怕的模型为教会的其余。 The thing is, WIllow Creek, by exercise of might and is really moving towards multiethnicity…and they’ll probably write books about it and tell everyone else how to do it (and I guarantee they will). The problem is, the example and experiences they’ll be offering will be mostly worthless.
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Ooh, great quote!
Guarantee, they’ll be running conferences on multi-ethinic churches within 2 years.
Well… yes, we will get everything Willow Creek foisted on us, maybe including a new “how to be multi-ethnic” workbook, but good for Hybels for having the guts to admit a mistake. There are probably plenty of others not yet willing to say something like that.
Interesting quote and great analysis. I always get frustrated with people who have made it one way and then say from their mighty position: it should all have been done different. If they would have done different, maybe they won’t be talking to me. So, thanks for the post.
Mark,
I think you’re being a little harsh in saying “The problem is, the example and experiences they’ll be offering will be mostly worthless.” Even if you were using hyperbole. For better or worse, they ’set the standard’ that massive numbers of people in Evangelicalism look up to. I’m nervous about giving that much “power” to one small group, but at least Hybels and others are willing to publically repent of erroneous thought.
Missio Dei didn’t get everything perfect in the beginning. We’re still learning and growing so we should allow others to do so as well.
I guess I wasn’t clear enough. My point is that their experiences will be worthless because no one else can mirror their process. In other words, the way they arrive at at multiethnicity will be fundamentally unduplicateable. I am glad they are moving in the right direction. Where they come from doesn’t destroy the good they can do now. However, it is difficult to take them seriously as a guide in this area, since they made the change after amassing great resources and clout, and they made the change in such a way that only mega-churches can duplicate their process.
So, my statement of their example being worthless is in regards to their contribution to church systems implementation, not in regards to their example being one worthy of emulation.
Very cool to hear Hybels saying this. I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t have the multi-ethnic thing figured out, and I agree that the way Willow Creek does it will be different than will work for us, but it’s nice to hear him say it.
“the example and experiences they’ll be offering will be mostly worthless” - wow, dude, that’s perhaps the most arrogant thing I have read today.
I wonder if one of the reasons people think that the emerging church is nothing more than a group of men pissed off about the failures of evangelicalism and the church growth movement is because sometimes that is all we are. One of the lessons I am constantly having to learn is that I have no idea where God is at work. That I am part of work of God in this age, but perhaps not the only part.
Will, please read my clarification. By the way, I don’t consider myself emergent. I am pretty dang evangelical.