Een citaat van Hybels
Geschreven door Mark Van Steenwyk: 2 april, 2005
Ik las enkel binnen dit een gesprek op Christendom vandaag. Bill Hybels zegt:
Willow Creek begon in de era toen, als boek
genoteerd, zeiden de de kerk-groei mensen, „verdrijf geen van
uw energieën die raskwesties bestrijden. Nadruk alles bij evangelism. „Het
was het homogene eenheidsprincipe van de kerkgroei. En ik herinner me zoals
jonge pastor die denkt, Dat is waar. Ik wist niet of I
gewild aan kans vervreemdende mensen die zoekers waren, de van wie eeuwigheid was
voor de lijn, en wie slechts aan kerk één zou kunnen komen keer. Ik wilde aan
haal zoveel mogelijk hindernissen weg, buiten het Kruis, te helpen
de mensen concentreren zich op het evangelie.Zo nu, 30 later jaar, aangezien ik dit boek [dat door Geloof wordt verenigd], I las
erken dat een ware biblically functionerende gemeenschap moet omvatten
zijnd multiethnic. Mijn hart slaat zo snel voor die visie vandaag. I
wonder bij hoe Na? ve en pragmatisch was ik 30 jaar geleden.
Mijn eerste reactie is „lofGod!“ Het is goed om één van de grootste verdedigers van de homongenous weigering van het eenheidsprincipe te zien het principe. Mijn tweede reactie is één van consternatie. Ik word grumpy met het aantal mensen ik weet wie iets de gemakkelijke manier… nemend de weg naar snelste succes bouwen, en dan recenter probeer eerlijk te worden. Het is als Dieter die pillen en slimfast gebruikt om het gewicht te verliezen en dan probeert om gezond na dat te eten. Het plaatst een afschuwelijk model voor de rest van de Kerk, wanneer de mensen hoe te een multiethnic kerk op een gezonde manier moeten beginnen. The thing is, WIllow Creek, by exercise of might and is really moving towards multiethnicity…and they’ll probably write books about it and tell everyone else how to do it (and I guarantee they will). The problem is, the example and experiences they’ll be offering will be mostly worthless.
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Ooh, great quote!
Guarantee, they’ll be running conferences on multi-ethinic churches within 2 years.
Well… yes, we will get everything Willow Creek foisted on us, maybe including a new “how to be multi-ethnic” workbook, but good for Hybels for having the guts to admit a mistake. There are probably plenty of others not yet willing to say something like that.
Interesting quote and great analysis. I always get frustrated with people who have made it one way and then say from their mighty position: it should all have been done different. If they would have done different, maybe they won’t be talking to me. So, thanks for the post.
Mark,
I think you’re being a little harsh in saying “The problem is, the example and experiences they’ll be offering will be mostly worthless.” Even if you were using hyperbole. For better or worse, they ’set the standard’ that massive numbers of people in Evangelicalism look up to. I’m nervous about giving that much “power” to one small group, but at least Hybels and others are willing to publically repent of erroneous thought.
Missio Dei didn’t get everything perfect in the beginning. We’re still learning and growing so we should allow others to do so as well.
I guess I wasn’t clear enough. My point is that their experiences will be worthless because no one else can mirror their process. In other words, the way they arrive at at multiethnicity will be fundamentally unduplicateable. I am glad they are moving in the right direction. Where they come from doesn’t destroy the good they can do now. However, it is difficult to take them seriously as a guide in this area, since they made the change after amassing great resources and clout, and they made the change in such a way that only mega-churches can duplicate their process.
So, my statement of their example being worthless is in regards to their contribution to church systems implementation, not in regards to their example being one worthy of emulation.
Very cool to hear Hybels saying this. I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t have the multi-ethnic thing figured out, and I agree that the way Willow Creek does it will be different than will work for us, but it’s nice to hear him say it.
“the example and experiences they’ll be offering will be mostly worthless” - wow, dude, that’s perhaps the most arrogant thing I have read today.
I wonder if one of the reasons people think that the emerging church is nothing more than a group of men pissed off about the failures of evangelicalism and the church growth movement is because sometimes that is all we are. One of the lessons I am constantly having to learn is that I have no idea where God is at work. That I am part of work of God in this age, but perhaps not the only part.
Will, please read my clarification. By the way, I don’t consider myself emergent. I am pretty dang evangelical.