소비자 문화에 있는 교회이?
mark 밴 Steenwyk에 의해 쓰는: 2004년 12월 17일
나는 회의를 위에 두는 미니애폴리스 약간 교회를 사용의 아이디어로… 있다 (나는 알고 있다 소량 longshot 다는 것을, 그러나 어이, 꿈꿀 재미 다는 것을). 나는 회의를 위해 잠재적인 themese 숙고하고 있다. 저에게, 좋은 회의는 해야한다:
- 이득 교회 (ie는, 그들 유용하다).
- 새로운 생각 그리고 새로운 연습을 자극하십시오.
- 무시한 지역에 반응하는 무언가있으십시오.
이렇게, 나는 숙고해 회의를 소비자 문화에 있는 교회인에 조립한. 이 문제점은 나의 심혼에 아주 가깝고 귀중하다; 아주 소수 교회는 이 지역에서 예언 이고 있다. 나가 현지 교회에게 회의를 접대하는 얻을 수 있던 나는 상당히 자부한다. 나가 교부금 기증자에게서 몇몇 기본적인 기금을 장악할 수 있던 경우에, 적어도 1개의 유명한 스피커를 (Marva 새벽, Rodney Clapp, 등등 같이) 얻으십시오, 나는 좋은 회의를 위한 튼튼한 기반이 있을 것입니다.
나는 소비자 보호 운동과 종교에 1개의 기초가 튼튼한 스피커 그리고 2 관계되 유명한 권위를 특색짓는 3개의 총회를 가진 목요일 - 금요일 회의… 일 것이라는 점을 생각하고 있었다 (Vincent 밀러 같이). 회의의 나머지는 소비자 문화에 있는 교회를 항해하는 것을 시도하고 있는 교회 practioners에 의해 지도될 수 있었다.
나의 질문은 여기에서 있다: 하고 있는가의 값이 있는 이? 당신은 이에 흥미있을는가 것입니다?
추가 읽기를 위해. . .
- 찾아내는 아무도
당신의 접근은 무엇인가? Is this about how to subvert consumerism in the church?
Maybe subverting endless conferences in church would be cool too!
The approach would be to have people discuss how to be and do church in a faithful way in light of the problems of consumerism…so the focus could include both subverting consumerism in the church, as well as subverting consumerism outside of the church.
I used to think lots of conferences were a waste of time–but they can be very helpful. Conferences provide an opportunity for people to learn from one another–a sort of continuing education for those who otherwise might not have opportunities to learn. Some conferences are a waste of time, for sure. Some conferences are overly focused on propogating a model (a la Willow Creek), others tend to neglect practical implications. My hope would be that a conference like the one I propose would allow for both thinking and praxis.
It’s not so much that I think they are a waste of time,(although that may come into it) but rather that if one wants to teach people from a mission angle on whatever issue it may be, then the best way is to actually bring people into the mission field. Take people out onto the streets, into the culture, let them see the problems, and rely on God to teach them how to deal with it.
One big problem with another conference is that it keeps mission inside the building, which completely goes against the point of it.
Just my opinion:)
I guess I am working under the assumption that those who attend conferences like the one I am suggesting are already practioners. I agree that the best way to learn is to get out there and start doing. But it is also good to exchange notes along the way.
This is a great idea. I would come, and I would try to bring other people as well. (Especially if Clapp were there.)
Perhaps we could have a conference that included some corporate “practice” as well.
How did conferences get to be the problem that needs to be subverted? The same could be said–and I hear it often–about Bible studies. We should stop reading about Christ and go be Christ to a dying world. Too much talk. Too much theory. “We need to subvert oesoteric Bible studies.”
Is this really a fair dilemma? Theory-focused or Praxis-focused? Aren’t both involved no matter where our energy is expended? Show me a theoretician that devoid of application and I’ll show you a practitioner who’s devoid of theory. Can’t do it.
As far as considering a conference, it seems to me that judgments about what is better or best should be suspended until we understand what prompts people/groups to have ‘em. What will help an alcoholic more–telling them it’s wrong/hurtful to drink or asking what happens in their life when they drink/how does it impact them? I wonder if, rather than saying we should do this or it’s better to do that, it might be more helpful to consider why we do the things we do? People conduct lots of conferences on a variety of subjects…what’s this about for THEM? What does this do for them? Intellectually, emotionally, relationally, etc. Once we have a better grasp of what dynamics occur to perpetuate these things (conferences, Bible studies, drinking) we’ll be at a more informed place to understand something. Maybe people deal with the insecurity of getting their feet wet by throwing a conference. OR, maybe some folks have gotten their feet wet and now want to shift focus to sharing what they’re learned (e.g. giving away a fish vs. teaching another how to fish…practice vs. theory). I don’t know, maybe conferences are simply a futile selfish act, but I think I could make that judgment better if I started asking “what” and “how” questions about the process.
I wonder what writing this response does for me? Ultimately, I’m learning something about myself and I’m developing new opinions through this exercise of blogging.
Um, yeah…I’m not sure how this became a discussion about the theological issues surrounding conferences, but I am sure of this: I was really happy to here someonw suggest that thoughtful Christians get together to think through a faithful response to consumerism in the US. So if anyone is interested in that, I’m down. Whether we call it a conference or not.
(Btw, I think that our tradition has a lot of resources for addressing this question: tithing, fasting, radical generosity, communal living, etc. It’s simply a matter of contextualizing these resources as a response to our current situation and re-interpreting them accordingly.)